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Author:  Hippy Chippy [ Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:42 pm ]
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CAN YOU SEE/ PLAY THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO...? :right: :left: ...DON'T PANIC, I COULDN'T EITHER...!
..................................................................... For those of you into serious model making, :laughing3: HMAS SYDNEY III.


=; For those of us who normally use Internet Explorer 11, you’ll notice, (as I did,) that due to changes that Google has made to YouTube, #-o our embedded YouTube Player
no longer displays (albeit, hopefully only temporarily,) in Explorer 11.

I was somewhat confused at first, :omg1: that no other Members had drawn our attention to the problem, with Pony, Shep and Stroppy Chippie all posting comments after SeeJay
posted the YouTube video clip on the HMAS Sydney model (above) last week… Yet this :down: is all I could see using Internet Explorer 11...! :bugger:

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Ordinarily, Ned and Ellen tackle any of our coding issues, they are the acknowledged experts in this area, but I have also learned not to bother them with issues I experience
until I’ve eliminated all possibilities of a solution at my end first… :roll:

Initially, as neither Ned, (who uses Firefox,) nor SeeJay (who uses Safari on his Mac,) found a problem, (nor Pony, Shep, or Stroppy Chippie,) I thought it had to be me/my
PC, so I decided that I’d uninstall/ reinstall all 4 of my common browsers to see if that would fix the problem, then only later, Ned mentioned he couldn’t see videos posted
in Internet Explorer either
, indicating a YouTube/ browser-specific issue…

By this time though, I’d uninstalled Version 60.0.3112.113, then reinstalled Version 61.0.3163.100 of Google Chrome and I could then see/ play YouTube videos, but only
within the player
, it wouldn’t and still won’t expand to ‘Full Screen’

I’d also uninstalled Version 55.0.3 (x86 en-US) then reinstalled the same Version 55.0.3 (x86 en-US) of Mozilla Firefox, and was still getting a YouTube frame blacked-out
with an HTML5 message
as before (see below,) and it still wouldn’t play…

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…but =; then I went into ‘Open Menu’, (three horizontal lines top right of the browser,) and hit ‘Add-Ons’ and ‘DISABLED’ Flash Player for YouTube… BINGO, I can now see/
play the YouTube video
and it will expand into ‘Full Screen’, (although initially, the YouTube Control Panel was hidden behind my Windows Task Bar, so to exit the ‘Full
Screen’
and return to the YouTube Player, I had to double-click on the video… :roll: However, that’s now resolved itself…!)
:yes:

I’ve not yet uninstalled/ reinstalled Internet Explorer 11, Version 11.608.15063.0, not sure it can be done, but I’ll keep looking…

I’ve not been able to find out how to uninstall/ reinstall Microsoft Edge, (it won’t load on my PC anyway,) with most saying it can’t be done, while those who reckon it can be
done, are posting solutions requiring a Masters in IT…! :evil3: Anyway… :dontknow:

In summary, a modification by YouTube has created a problem on phpBB websites using Internet Explorer 11, so it’s not simply a browser issue. I’ve also remembered back
to August last year time when basically the same thing happened... YouTube caved in after a few weeks (and no doubt millions of complaints,) and they mysteriously fixed it
before Ned and Ellen got to it… Hopefully they will do so again…

Effectively, the embedded YouTube Player we use on RAN Skilled Hands is the product of an enthusiastic team of phpBB open-source developers, as is phpBB itself, so not
quite in the same league as Microsoft, (IE/ Edge,) or Google (Chrome/ YouTube,) but with enough complaints from the HUGE phpBB User Community, I’m hoping that either
Google developers will revisit their latest YouTube modification, or the phpBB User Group will come up with a new mod/ new plug-in that will work in Internet Explorer 11
because I’m sure Microsoft won’t be doing anything about it anytime soon… [-(

If the phpBB User Group do come up with a new YouTube Player that will work on Internet Explorer 11, I’m concerned that such a modification will be designed to only work
in the latest version 3.2.xx of phpBB, whereas RAN Skilled Hands is still on v 3.0.11 (with 3.0.14 available,) but we'll cross that bridge if/ when we need to... :-k

In the meantime, I’ll probably follow Ned’s lead and (albeit, reluctantly,) :roll: move over to Mozilla Firefox, while awaiting a ‘fix’…

P.S. A great suggestion from BC, :ok: which makes sense, is that until we find a solution, those of you who already know how to post a YouTube Video using our YouTube Player
continue to do so, but underneath the YouTube Player, also post the YouTube URL, that way even 'glued-on' Internet Explorer 11 users can click on the URL :type: and access
the video on YouTube itself
, thereby not missing out on anything... :yess:

P.P.S. If you’re experimenting with browser add-ons/ extensions yourself and find a solution, let us know, we'll be happy to hail you as a :prayer: BONAFIDE :medal: HERO...! :notworthy:

Author:  BC [ Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:15 pm ]
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Well done Rick. :ok:

Author:  Hippy Chippy [ Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:22 pm ]
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Thanks BC... :yes:

Author:  Pony [ Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:36 pm ]
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BZ Rick. I haven't used IE or Edge for years so didn't have any issues. Good work around on your behalf.

Author:  Chippy Ned [ Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:51 am ]
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Good boy Tricky, I have no idea about that stuff. You saved me heaps of frustration. :yea: :heart:

Author:  Hippy Chippy [ Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:28 pm ]
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:director: AHOY THERE…! :hi: Do you regularly post :type: links/ URLs to articles of interest :evil3: on RAN Skilled Hands…? Then this is for you… :ok:

Over time, it has become apparent that sharing externally sourced articles/ information is one of the more popular forms of posting on RAN Skilled Hands, yet until now, we’ve not
imposed any protocols for doing so. Some of our more prolific ‘naked URL’ posters, due to the sheer volume, (not unlike the ‘boy who cried wolf’,) risk readers dismissing/ ignoring
their links, thereby not having their posted contribution read at all, :puter: prompting reactions/ feedback like this: :evil3:

“I ignore most of the links, I feel it’s just lazy. On saying that, I don't particularly object, every now and again I find one interesting. Posters should give a brief summary of the link
though, or not post it at all. Maybe posters could be requested not to post links unless they briefly explain them.”


[-X Now we don’t want to discourage sharing those articles, but the point is not lost on us… =; What if we could ensure a greater readership along with clarity for our Members…? :-k

Posting a link/ URL to the article, accompanied with some basic info, (headline, author, source and a few sentences,) as opposed to posting a ‘naked URL’, or a partial ‘cut and paste’,
still saves space, yet it offers some protection from copyright/ plagiarism laws, and if the article headline, author, source and a relevant sentence, or two, are included, this not only
acknowledges the author/ source, it also gives the reader an opportunity to decide if it’s worth his/ her further attention.

If the article headline, author, source and the first sentence are included it enables a very effective Google search :type: in case the link is broken, or a PayWall :banghead: is encountered
and you want to search for a secondary (free) source for the article. :brick-wall:

The following :down: are the (newly) suggested protocols for sharing URLs…

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Example #1 (basic, using URL):

ANALYSIS - N.Korea's bark may be worse than bite in threat to shoot down U.S. bombers
MSN News/ Reuters
Christine Kim and David Brunnstrom
28th September 2017

North Korea has threatened to shoot down U.S. bombers flying near the Korean peninsula, but it would have difficulty
matching its words with action given aging air defense systems mostly dating to the Cold War, military experts said.
:type: http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/ana ... id=ieslice
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Example #2 (advanced, using Hyperlink):

:type: ANALYSIS - N.Korea's bark may be worse than bite in threat to shoot down U.S. bombers
MSN News/ Reuters
Christine Kim and David Brunnstrom
28th September 2017

North Korea has threatened to shoot down U.S. bombers flying near the Korean peninsula, but it would have difficulty
matching its words with action given aging air defense systems mostly dating to the Cold War, military experts said.
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=; And finally, if you’re in the habit of re-posting entire articles, including pictures/ videos, etc., because you already know it’s behind a PayWall, :banghead: we don’t necessarily wish to
discourage this practice, only PLEASE REMEMBER TO ADD THE FULL SOURCE DETAILS, AUTHOR, DATE, ETC., as well… :type: Happy posting…! :puter:

Author:  sbjohns [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:19 pm ]
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Question for the Admins.

Do you think it may be time to delete the Nirimba 50th Section from the Main Page as it was 11 years ago :omg: and there hasn't been a post on it since 2006?
I mean I'm all for nostalgia, but that's taking it a little too far.... :roll: :roll:

Just Saying!!

Author:  Hippy Chippy [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:32 pm ]
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It was left there more for historic purposes, Steve, but we'll review it in light of your observation... :3some:

Author:  Seejay [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:17 pm ]
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Steve's suggestion has merit. :ok:

Author:  Chippy Ned [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:51 pm ]
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I agree, I have been contemplating its removal for a while.

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