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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:26 pm |
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The point is that it should have been reported at the time. Not reporting it allows for further transgressions (if that were the case) or a "metoo" attitude. Cannot hide the fact that it takes the focus off the earlier debarcle where no one is charged or found guilty but money is still paid to the "other" party.
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Pony
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:56 pm |
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One of the architects of the voice , Thomas Mayo, letting the truth behind it come out.... https://youtu.be/655mzGRmkZwhttps://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/the ... homas_mayo
_________________ Mike (Pony) Moore O42860 Ex-LT GLEN(ME) 16th MOBI intake Jan 64 - Jul 88. Anzac, Nirimba, Stalwart, Moresby, Creswell, Waterhen, Penguin, Vampire, GMGID (PJP), Coonawarra, Attack, Ardent, Cook, Kuttabull, Cerberus.
May your walls know joy; May every room hold laughter and every window open to great possibility.
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Seejay
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:53 am |
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Just one big money grab.
_________________ Chris O'Keefe R43136 Ex WO Chippy 19th MOBI Intake July 65 to July 85 HMAS Nirimba X 4 -Penguin-Sydney-Queenborough - Creswell - Moreton - Stalwart - Platypus - Coonawarra Reconstruction Team 76 - Platypus - Hobart - Cerberus - FHQ - Coonawarra. Anyone can be ordinary. Shipwrights choose to be extraordinary!
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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:11 pm |
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Belonging to a union with a "less than democratic" attitude.
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Pony
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:34 pm |
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Interesting clip on Titan disaster. https://youtu.be/4dka29FSZac
_________________ Mike (Pony) Moore O42860 Ex-LT GLEN(ME) 16th MOBI intake Jan 64 - Jul 88. Anzac, Nirimba, Stalwart, Moresby, Creswell, Waterhen, Penguin, Vampire, GMGID (PJP), Coonawarra, Attack, Ardent, Cook, Kuttabull, Cerberus.
May your walls know joy; May every room hold laughter and every window open to great possibility.
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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:53 am |
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Well, I can see a number of fail points straight away.
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Graeme Rhodes
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:14 am |
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Stroppy Chippie wrote: Well, I can see a number of fail points straight away. Only needed one at that depth.
_________________ Graeme 'Smiley' Rhodes R94714 Ex-CPOMTP(D)5 Jan'65 Leeuwin Intake (10th) - Jan'66 Nirimba Intake (20th) Jan'65 to Mar '88 Leeuwin, Nirimba, Stalwart, Samarai, Lae, Penguin, Curlew, Buccaneer, Navy Office, Barbette, Cairns, RANTTU (based in Port Moresby), Stirling, Bunbury.
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Pony
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:22 am |
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Only a couple! The biggest fail point was the ego of the CEO and his view that innovation and risk was preferred to established, proven tested concepts rules and safety, because he "knew" his untested technology was best. Unfortunately a disaster waiting to happen.
_________________ Mike (Pony) Moore O42860 Ex-LT GLEN(ME) 16th MOBI intake Jan 64 - Jul 88. Anzac, Nirimba, Stalwart, Moresby, Creswell, Waterhen, Penguin, Vampire, GMGID (PJP), Coonawarra, Attack, Ardent, Cook, Kuttabull, Cerberus.
May your walls know joy; May every room hold laughter and every window open to great possibility.
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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:36 pm |
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A 5 inch thick carbon composite tube with titanium rings glued on either end. Would be like popping a Pringles container.
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:51 am |
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These two You Tube articles offer a little more insight into potential causes.
Oceangate Sub Construction Details and Implosion
youtube.com/watch?v=CfsBNAR5HTA
LUXFER carbon composite manufacture youtube.com/watch?v=ZbMb85IenJA This shows the difference between the carbon composite layup on a cylinder against that shown in the video for the submersible
Oceangate Titan: analysis of an insultingly predictable failure
youtube.com/watch?v=VaOVYkWgpcM
When we used to manufacture the GRP polyester resin/chopped strand/woven roving mix hatches for the Oberon class submarines (not associated with the pressure hull), the most important task was to ensure that there were NO air bubbles in the laminate (around 12mm thick). At the diving depths of the Oberons any air bubbles in the laminate could travel and delaminate the hatches. We did recommend a vacuum chamber to assist with air bubble removal (in the course of laminate layup/manufacture) but the design authority said that would be in contravention of the original design process (original build in Scotland).
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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