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Seejay · **Posted:** Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:37 am

Stroppy Chippie wrote:

"The repair bills have to be staggering and absolutely must be a huge concern for defence". Noting that they rarely (if ever) allocate additional funding over an extended period, I wonder what platforms (or Class programs) have been losing funding to support these?

From a historical perspective and offered in WIKI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Manoora_(L_52)

"The now controversial refit cost for the two ships increased A$400 million, with half of the funding taken from repair and refit allocations for other ships."

In 1998 as the NQEA Follow On Support manager for the navy's two new Hydro Ships I visited the Newcastle company that was supplying the flume-type ship stability system. During many discussions with them the subject of Manoora and Kanimbla came up and they - being a local company in the marine world - divulged a whole heap of incidents and problems that both vessels had encountered, and they were just staggering in their complexity, range, and volume.

Further, they were known locally as HMAS Towards 2,000 and HMAS Beyond 2,000 (to mimic a popular TV show at the time), and the ridiculous figures being quoted by contractors to fix the many defects/alterations/conversions/upgrades were of epic proportions.

Yet all were approved by the project senior naval officers who - according to the local - did not have a clue as to what they were paying for, much less what the job entailed.

It was an interesting visit, for sure! :lol1:

Stroppy Chippie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:23 am

Tended to reinforce the perception that the real cost was way different to that offered.

tafmo · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:23 am

BC wrote:

I understand a Court Martial has been scheduled following the the result of the Committee of Inquiry....

Obviously spent too much money on DEI training and hire, and not enough on ship training... :cat1:

I'll bet the actions of the skipper (if they were less than optimal) will be well covered up... :angry7:

Hippy Chippy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:27 am

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Hippy Chippy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:38 pm

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Hippy Chippy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:39 pm

The latest fortnightly edition of :salute1:

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Stroppy Chippie · **Posted:** Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:53 am

Comment: Navy News, front page - the image of the sailor holding the Akron style branch reminded me of an early TM179 investigation (in my early MMES days post Nirimba). There was a sheaf of issues reported with regard to the Storz couplings used on the hoses and the reference to rust stains and fittings jamming. One of the fittings arrived with a description that it was brass and not possible that it could rust. I took one of the fittings home, cut it in two with a hacksaw, saw the issue, checked the description for the options covering supply and wrote out the investigation outcome and working solution. This was delivered the next morning to the head of MMES for his signature (as was the procedure at the time). Apparently it was cause for a little angst as the fitting was supposed to be one of the topics of discussion for a Heads of Departments meeting that day (seen as a Fleet wide ship stopper).
The issue was, when they put out the specification for the supply of brass couplings, they failed to nominate whether the Storz coupling circlip was to be galvanised wire or stainless wire. Standard was galvanised, option was stainless........

Comment: Navy News, page 5 - the former Admiral "stopped to admire HMAS Supply" as one of his early postings had been a former HMAS Supply. No mention of the fact that the ship he was admiring has been alongside over 12 months due to a defect in the course of the ships build (and her sister ship Stalwart). At least that never happened on the earlier ship....

Stroppy Chippie · **Posted:** Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:31 pm

I see that the advertising for the open day at HMAS Cerberus includes Navy Technical Training displays (no longer trade training displays offered in earlier years).

Hippy Chippy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:55 pm

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Hippy Chippy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:56 pm

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....................................... • SISTERS IN THE SAND: Celebrating International Women’s Day – Page 5

....................................... • SALUTE TO INDONESIA: Hobart joins important maritime events – Pages 10-11

....................................... • SERVES OF FIRE: Players bring the heat to Carr and Burrell Cups – Page 18

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