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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 11:30 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:24 am Posts: 542
City or Town: Schofields
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" they've been gifted an intact (but beyond economical repair) Guardian to practice on."
With enough bodies going through on courses, could get that one back in service (no profit margin).
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Seejay
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:36 pm |
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Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:16 am Posts: 1978
City or Town: Cairns
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Hippy Chippy wrote: They actually do train around this area, but have the project teams on board to assist. That minimises the damage potential of course, but when the Guardians leave Cairns to return to their home ports only the ship's crew is aboard. This means that they navigate around/through the GBR by themselveslves and thence to their own ports, so they have a substantial knowledge of navigation. My theory is that they are confused by the level of dependence on electronic aids and the computer systems on board. Whereas previously everything was manual control with limited remote operation, now they have to contend with computers with a dozen active screens to operate engines/equipment/valves/etc, and they just don't cope with it very well. But, what do I know? The most recent boat to run aground (Takuare) is now off the reef (after another vessel tried to just drag it off and caused more problems), and is now sitting by the seaside on a sandy bottom. Same as the other one that grounded months & months  ago...
_________________  Chris O'Keefe R43136 Ex WO Chippy 19th MOBI Intake July 65 to July 85 HMAS Nirimba X 4 -Penguin-Sydney-Queenborough - Creswell - Moreton - Stalwart - Platypus - Coonawarra Reconstruction Team 76 - Platypus - Hobart - Cerberus - FHQ - Coonawarra. Anyone can be ordinary. Shipwrights choose to be extraordinary!
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Stroppy Chippie
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:00 pm |
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"Takuare" - that would be the one returned in March after an earlier repair job?
You would think that there would be a huge sign on the wall in the ship procurement area stating that there is a simple reason why the Pacific Class patrol boat was designed and built....
_________________ Brian Mackenzie
ex-Shipwright Instructor
Oct '88 to Dec '93 (NIRIMBA) before and beyond
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Seejay
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:13 pm |
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Yep, that's the one! 
_________________  Chris O'Keefe R43136 Ex WO Chippy 19th MOBI Intake July 65 to July 85 HMAS Nirimba X 4 -Penguin-Sydney-Queenborough - Creswell - Moreton - Stalwart - Platypus - Coonawarra Reconstruction Team 76 - Platypus - Hobart - Cerberus - FHQ - Coonawarra. Anyone can be ordinary. Shipwrights choose to be extraordinary!
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connief
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:23 pm |
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:51 am Posts: 116
City or Town: Canberra
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Here you go Vanuatu patrol boat RVS Takuare transported to Australia for repairs after hitting reefhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-30/ ... /105947254I like this bit about who pays for the repairs "It is unclear who will pay for the repairs and recovery operation; however, the Australian government does have budget provisions for "support" of the vessels' operations across the Pacific."
_________________ Bruce Francis R112774 JRTE 40TH Intake July 72-June73 Ex WM,QMG,Bosun,Paid off Sept 93 Leeuwin,Cerberus x3, Lonsdale, Watson, Coonawarra(DNB), Harman. Supply, Melbourne, Vampire, Attack, Ardent, Brisbane x2, Fremantle(Commissioning Crew), Sydney-FFG 03(Commissioning Crew), Hobart, Cessnock. Go the Mighty Magpies
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Hippy Chippy
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:09 am Posts: 4737
City or Town: Lake Munmorah
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_________________  Rick Pengilly WEBMASTER Ex-CPOMTH3 R42630 13th MOBI Intake July'62 to July'74 HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Melbourne - HMAS Cerberus - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Lonsdale - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Brisbane
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Hippy Chippy
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:16 pm |
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_________________  Rick Pengilly WEBMASTER Ex-CPOMTH3 R42630 13th MOBI Intake July'62 to July'74 HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Melbourne - HMAS Cerberus - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Lonsdale - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Brisbane
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Hippy Chippy
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:17 pm |
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_________________  Rick Pengilly WEBMASTER Ex-CPOMTH3 R42630 13th MOBI Intake July'62 to July'74 HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Melbourne - HMAS Cerberus - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Lonsdale - HMAS Tarangau - HMAS Nirimba - HMAS Brisbane
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Seejay
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:53 am |
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Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:16 am Posts: 1978
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If anyone hasn't seen the SMH's big story yesterday (and repeated in The Age) about NORSTA's previous CEO suing them and lifting the lid on 'questionable work practices' and unfair dismissal, perhaps you should. Seems lots of investigations may be in the wind regarding their work on patrol boats, etc, and that would naturally extend to the public servants involved. Lots of very uncomfortable people in this area at the moment.
To explain, NORSTA is a defence contract conglomerate spread across all three services and are looking to jump in to areas where AUSTAL is vacating. Interesting times.....
_________________  Chris O'Keefe R43136 Ex WO Chippy 19th MOBI Intake July 65 to July 85 HMAS Nirimba X 4 -Penguin-Sydney-Queenborough - Creswell - Moreton - Stalwart - Platypus - Coonawarra Reconstruction Team 76 - Platypus - Hobart - Cerberus - FHQ - Coonawarra. Anyone can be ordinary. Shipwrights choose to be extraordinary!
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BC
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:06 pm |
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n AI overview:
Recent issues with Norsta include a lawsuit filed by its former CEO, Dan Smith, who alleges the company misled the Australian military on projects and exposed it to cybersecurity risks. Smith claims he raised concerns about unqualified project managers and unapproved IT systems, but was pressured to resign when his warnings were ignored.
Cybersecurity risks: The Sydney Morning Herald reports that Smith alleged Norsta was using IT systems for defense contracts that had not been cyber-approved by the Australian Defence Force (ADF), potentially exposing the company and the ADF to cyberattack.
Unqualified staff: The lawsuit claims that Norsta employed "senior project managers to deliver the Defence contracts" who were not qualified to do so.
Pressure to resign: According to Brisbane Times, Smith alleged that after he raised these serious concerns, he was pressured to resign.
Contract management: Smith's claims suggest that Norsta, a contractor for the Australian Navy and Border Force, may have misled the military about project progress and risks.
The primary "Norsta issues" relate to allegations of misconduct and cybersecurity risks raised by the former CEO of Norsta, an Australian defence contractor.
Former CEO Allegations
In late November 2025, Dan Smith, the former CEO of Norsta, initiated a lawsuit against the company and its chairman, Maurie McNarn. The core issues alleged by Smith include:
Misleading on Projects: Claims that the company was misleading on project status and performance.
Cybersecurity Risks: Allegations of unaddressed cybersecurity vulnerabilities within the company's systems.
Forced Out: Smith claims he was forced out of the business after refusing to remain silent about his concerns.
Context: Norsta's Role in Defence
Norsta Maritime is a significant Australian-owned defence contractor that provides maintenance services for Royal Australian Navy vessels in Northern Australia. They hold key contracts for Regional Maintenance Centres (RMCs) in Cairns and Darwin as part of the Defence's Plan Galileo. The company is a joint venture involving Norship, Tropical Reef Shipyards, and other partners, focused on building sovereign defence capability.
These allegations have brought attention to the company's internal governance and its critical role in national security and the sustainment of the Navy fleet.
_________________ Brian Carney R43371 Ex-WOMTP5 22nd Mobi Intake Jan 67 - Jan 89 RANATE, Sydney, Swan, Creswell, Stalwart (FMU), Cerberus, Derwent, Nirimba, Parramatta, Nirimba, FHQ (FMMO).

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